y ew 1 Share Posted July 26, 2023 Are these viable? Couldn't find much definitive info. My research shows that a VM could very much be a viable option for running clients with different HWIDs/MAC address. Can anyone confirm? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camelCase 231 Share Posted July 27, 2023 no reason to Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
y ew 1 Author Share Posted July 27, 2023 39 minutes ago, camalCase said: no reason to Why wouldn't there be a reason to? Changes to your HWID & MAC address would then mean your VM and computer are two separate systems and preventing any traceability back to your host computer. Leaving bans to be less chain-able, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camelCase 231 Share Posted July 27, 2023 3 minutes ago, y ew said: Changes to your HWID & MAC address would then mean your VM and computer are two separate systems and preventing any traceability back to your host computer. Leaving bans to be less chain-able, right? no they dont track em, and if they did there would be more resource efficient options to spoof. i also dont know why you would assume jagex would track that and not have any virtual env detection Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
y ew 1 Author Share Posted July 27, 2023 (edited) 13 minutes ago, camalCase said: no they dont track em, and if they did there would be more resource efficient options to spoof. i also dont know why you would assume jagex would track that and not have any virtual env detection 5. THE DATA WE COLLECT ABOUT YOU • Technical Data: Commonly known as online identifiers and includes internet protocol (IP) address, unique mobile device identification numbers (such as your Media Access Control (MAC) address, Identifier For Advertising (IDFA), and/or International Mobile Equipment Identity (IMEI), type of device, your login data, browser type and version, time zone setting and geolocation, browser plug-in types and versions, operating system and platform and other technology on the devices you use to access this website. the data we collect about you Jagex Privacy Policy They don't openly admit to specifically collecting the HWID data, but they do state they could and collect that among other resources of your information. And assuming they do, however, unlikely, track if it's a virtual environment or not, there's ways to spoof it. Here's one example: https://github.com/WCharacter/RDTSC-KVM-Handler Edited July 27, 2023 by y ew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camelCase 231 Share Posted July 27, 2023 2 hours ago, y ew said: 5. THE DATA WE COLLECT ABOUT YOU • Technical Data: Commonly known as online identifiers and includes internet protocol (IP) address, unique mobile device identification numbers (such as your Media Access Control (MAC) address, Identifier For Advertising (IDFA), and/or International Mobile Equipment Identity (IMEI), type of device, your login data, browser type and version, time zone setting and geolocation, browser plug-in types and versions, operating system and platform and other technology on the devices you use to access this website. the data we collect about you Jagex Privacy Policy They don't openly admit to specifically collecting the HWID data, but they do state they could and collect that among other resources of your information. what you are quoting is the privacy policy for their website so i dont know what your point is with that, im sure the client tos would include the rights to collect mac but they dont, this is known not from speculation but from reversing the game & lived experience of just not getting chain banned by hardware 2 hours ago, y ew said: And assuming they do, however, unlikely, track if it's a virtual environment or not, there's ways to spoof it. sure, as you could spoof mac if it was collected and not be wasting ur resources Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
y ew 1 Author Share Posted July 27, 2023 (edited) 7 hours ago, camalCase said: what you are quoting is the privacy policy for their website so i dont know what your point is with that, im sure the client tos would include the rights to collect mac but they dont, this is known not from speculation but from reversing the game & lived experience of just not getting chain banned by hardware My point for quoting it was to show that they can and do in fact collect the IP, MAC and HWID* data. Where do you see that they don't collect that data? You may not get chain banned, but it could be a reason for Jagex to raise flags more quickly on your HWID, MAC and IPs from an account that shares that same information with others to make your subsequent accounts more likely to get banned. That's the whole reason why residential proxies are a more commonly used and VPN's are not, when botting. 7 hours ago, camalCase said: sure, as you could spoof mac if it was collected and not be wasting ur resources I agree, definitely resource usage for spoofing is something to take into consideration, but with proper methods, it should be lightweight. Edited July 27, 2023 by y ew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camelCase 231 Share Posted July 27, 2023 5 hours ago, y ew said: show that they can and do in fact collect the IP, MAC and HWID* data. Where do you see that they don't collect that data? the client, do you also think the client collects browser plugins and idfa to chain ur accs lole Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
y ew 1 Author Share Posted July 27, 2023 7 minutes ago, camalCase said: the client, do you also think the client collects browser plugins and idfa to chain ur accs lole What client? Jagex does collect your data. It's not about what I think, Jagex does collect your data, they clearly state that fact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camelCase 231 Share Posted July 27, 2023 23 minutes ago, y ew said: What client? the old school runescape java client, the one dreambot for its bot :3 24 minutes ago, y ew said: It's not about what I think, Jagex does collect your data, they clearly state that fact. does jagex collect your data? yeah of course. does the old school runescape java client collect hwid resulting in chain bans for accounts on the same hardware? no Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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