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  • Defiled

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    1. 4 hours ago, GingerBread said:

      As I said "Most people know". IMO people can choose to believe what they want about Jagex's system, they're likely just as wrong as the next guy. My OP was to emphasize that flagging people based on time zone and time of day is not very critical thinking, doesn't even make sense. To each their own though. 😮 

      So if you're saying that a repetitive movement 5,000 times will throw off a flag, then we are basically just saying the same thing in different words. That would be a flag that would lead to monitoring. There is also a bot detector on runelite that has 50k downloads which autoflags, so players are obviously a tool as well. 

      In 2006 I was told it was mostly on players to report, so I'm willing to believe that has obviously changed, we don't use flip phones anymore either. We can agree, to agree. :)

       

      I agree that timezones aren't a factor (in the case of daily playtimes) because that's utterly stupid to use. 

      I never said player reports aren't used by Jagex, but they don't lead to automated bans anymore like pre-2010 era. They may lead to flagging tho.

      2 hours ago, Axolotl said:

      Simply read jagex's privacy policy. They have the legal right to get your computers hardware specs, including MAC address which is a unique address to your specific device. Unless you are changing this either with a high end proxy (each proxy will have its own unique MAC address or manually changing it within CMD, jagex will know its the same device. If this device's MAC address is already flagged, its pretty easy to be banned even with changing IP/proxy IP). The timezone DOES matter. They have lots of data on the average players playtime vs specific timezone. If you are constantly playing at irregular times than the average player, its a flag (not a big one, as people do shift work, but a small flag nonetheless).
      If you are botting just a single account. Just reset your IP/MAC address in CMD, takes like 30seconds and it'll keep it a safe residential one that has less chance of being banned.

      Like Defiled mentioned, the ISP/proxy server address may already be flagged which is a pretty easy way to catch other accounts. Thankfully Brazil has a location based legal right and Jagex abides by it (just read the privacy policy). IMO spoofing Brazil has resulted in less bans than most countries.

      Jagex is also able to read the time of your computer, meaning that if you're spoofing a timezone that your computers time isn't set to, they can detect you're not actually there, even if its a residential proxy. I know this as until I modified my computers time to the same as the VPN location, I wasn't able to create an account on their website (for a few proxy IP's, not all).

      They aren't doing anything that they don't claim in their privacy policy or they face being sued, and tbh they give away lots of information on how to avoid being detected within it too.

      Once you have beaten all of their hardware / software checks, it really just comes down to how long you bot for / the quality of the script, like many have said above.

      Yes Mac Addresses play a big part if its constantly changing on a single account.

      Timezones/local time matter if you load the account on multiple proxies/networks simultaneously as that will 100% flag the account (personally tested). So always wait some time before switching to another network.

      The 2 points above do matter but do not play a significant role in bans honestly. what mostly matters in Botting is action patterns, play times, & network bot density (density is very important as real players got banned simply for playing multiple accounts on the same IP including an ex-JMOD Gudi).

      Jagex is able to read the JVM time so when you change the proxy on the same jvm, the time won't change. but I don't think this matters or if this is even a factor they check. but I think they might compare the jvm time with the proxy location time, maybe that's what you mean.

    2. 2 hours ago, GingerBread said:

      Used to have a friend who's dad worked for Jagex and his son (my friend) was a mod for obvious reasons. Nothing a few beers couldn't get out of them. Of course this was years ago, but at the time, it was a three step process as I'm sure most people know. Flagged, monitored, banned. Not getting flagged is easy, basic anti-ban, reasonable breaks.  

      If they're monitoring the account, the jig is already up and they're just gathering data prior to banning. Despite what most people think, Jagex relies mostly on players reporting. But as I said, my information is years old from two blitzed fellow's, who knows anymore. Although years later, I've never been banned. Cheers' :)

      You don't need to be a mod to know that, this process is pretty much in every game even shooters and even years back :)

      Not getting flagged is not easy. I believe 90% of accounts created for the purpose of Botting are flagged once they log onto tutorial island. You will be 100% flagged but I think Jagex has a threshold which if the player crosses, they either ban him automatically if the evidence is overwhelming to their automation or send to their "ICU" team to vet the player.

      and no Jagex doesn't rely mostly on players reporting that'll be EXTREMELY stupid and foolish as that will basically give users the power over other users. They rely on heuristics published by their automation to measure if the player is indeed a human or not. It can be simple stuff like Mouse Events to comparing current player Action Patterns to real players patterns.

    3. 21 hours ago, GingerBread said:

      So Jagex's banning system tracks time zones based on what? IP address? Then considering that some people just happen to play on proxies, which isn't a violation of Jagex's rules. Why would they even consider tying these factors to an initial ban? 

      Sources please?

      Furthermore, the OP simply stated he left a script running for six hours overnight. Breaks are more than often incorporated into the script and additionally, the client. Wouldn't it make more sense to ask for additional data before preaching to the OP about better botting practices? Considering the data at hand is menial at best. 

      You seem pretty confident though. 

      No one knows what flags Jagex's systems and you never will unless a whistleblower comes out.

      But what you should know is that Jagex doesn't just ban you straight away if you're doing something suspicious.. The suspicious actions pile up to a point where it either reaches the team and they vet you or you get insta-permed if its through the roof.

      Datacenter Proxies are known to be one of the flags because normal players tend not to use them. also most botters that use proxies often go with Datacenter proxies, therefore when Jagex detects that you're using one... you'll be raising one of the flags. also when 1 bot is caught with a Datacenter IP, wave your arm to the other proxies that are in the same subnet of the first ip. so like consider the subnet like this:

      1.0.0.1

      1.0.0.2

      ...

      if the first one gets banned, the second one is likely to be banned as well (if it's Datacenter of course, which is easy to know (through the ISP details)).

       

      A lot of things matter in Botting.. and one of the biggest things is of course the quality of the script. A lot of scripters wave the "Anti-ban" feature which is just a marketing play. Good scripts would incorporate real-player actions like "Far-clicking bank or moving the mouse outside the screen every now and then (to simulate click something outside the screen) or 5 minute idle break) into the script's actions code instead of a "anti-ban system".

      Another big thing is the Garbage Collector... since Dreambot scripts are run on the same JVM as the Client, changes in the Garbage Collector frequency will prompt flags. So a scripter must keep that in mind and try to make his or her's script lighter and try to not throw objects everywhere and to not take the "nullifying an object" lightly.

      Honourable mentions: Mouse Pattern, Mouse Injection, Repetitive Readable-Pattern Movements, Robot-like movements (Camera, Mouse, etc...), Keyboard Events Execution.

      There are tons of ways to make Botting more viable which I discussed in a thread I made a year back I think but I will make an updated one for sure.

    4. 1 hour ago, VorusR said:

      Well, it's no longer "waiting" but it's stuck on "Setting Speed..." now.

      The script works perfectly.

      You have something wrong with your Area coordinates.

      read the DefiledDicer guide found here: https://defiled.dev 

      also join my Discord server, link can be found in my signature and in the forum post itself so you can receive fast support.

      Thanks

    5. On 7/27/2020 at 6:53 AM, funkymonks said:

      Please can I get a trial of this

       

      On 7/27/2020 at 4:58 AM, Homehalal said:

      hey idk if your still on this post but i was wondering if i could get a trail? very interested !

      Hi, use the automated instant trial system on my discord server. Link is in my signature and the thread

    6. 23 minutes ago, waolas said:

      alchemist room doesn't seem to work

       

      The script works 100% as its used by many people, you probably have something wrong with your setup

      visit: https://defiled.dev and read the guide for the script

      Turn on Fresh Start in the DreamBot Settings and restart the client.

      join the discord server to receive fast support

    7. 7/13/2020 UPDATE 3.2:
       

      Update Log: 
      
      - Fixed Wrong Tab Teleportation Interaction Bug
      
      - Fixed State stuck on ANTI_PK in Non-Wildy Bug 
      
      - Applied some debugging code 
      
      - Enhanced AntiPK detectability
      
      - Cleaned and Reduced System Resources Usage 
      
      - Added Ignore if not found for item: Chaos gauntlets 
      
      - Added Protect Item Prayer Automated Handling 
      
      - Disabled Range Detection on Tridents Bug Fix 
      
      - Fixed Ignoring Looting bag in the bank bug

       

    8. On 7/2/2020 at 5:25 PM, hc tribe said:

      Hi, How can I cancel it from renewing from creditcard? I cannot find anything under my account status..

      Great script! but ill only be using it once..

      Thanks in advance

      Hi,

      you can manage your subscriptions here: https://dreambot.org/forums/index.php?/clients/purchases/

    9. 47 minutes ago, hd1998 said:

      So I really enjoyed my trial of this so far. One thing I noticed is that a lot of times after a user trades, it will start typing the spam message and delay accepting the trade until the instance is finished.. This causes a lot of people to decline out of fear that it's a fake gamble bot. Someway to block the spam message from typing when in a trade instance would benefit this script A LOT!

      Thank you for your feedback, will for sure fix this bug in the next update.

    10. 19 minutes ago, baddmttrip said:

      follow the set up and the bot crashes after equiping all the gear 

      it will reopen the bank then cross 

      same imput as video

      The input in the video is in version 1, the script is now version 3.0 a lot has changed.

      join my discord server to get help 24/7.

      This guide should suffice, although its on a late update.  https://defiled.dev/scripts/DefiledLavaDragons

      The only thing that was changed in regards to the setup (in comparison with the version of the guide) is the equipment.. you can now put in the full name of the equipment/inventory.

      so no need to only type "Amulet of glory", you can type it all.. "Amulet of glory(8)" etc.. (tip: just use fetch gear)


      Please join my discord server (link in signature and on thread) to receive help the next time you get stuck

    11. NEW UPDATE 5/6/2020 (3.0)

       

      Fixed:
      
      Fixed AntiPK shutting off mid trip
      
      Fixed Amulet of glory teleportation screw up
      
      Fixed GUI saving problem (profile name) 
      
      Fixed Looting bag hovering in bank
      
      Fixed uncharged glory problem 
      
      Fixed Equipment/Inventory problem
      
      New Features:
      
      Added First time Looting Bag Insertion Handling 
      
      Added Super energy potions support
      
      Added Stamina potions support
      
      Logout Tab will always be open while fighting the lava drags
      
      Ensured Spot Handling 
      
      Added Bank at Item(s)
      
      Added GUI Compatibility for DB3
      
      Added Death Tracker to the paint
      
      Added Pkers deterred tracker to the paint 
      
      Added Support for Ranged (Ammo checking) 
      
      Added Salamander Support (Remember to check the correct combat style) 
      
      Made emptying currently worn & inventory more humanlike (no more emptying twice)

       

       

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